Good article from Marat, as always. Thank you. BTW, Russian warriors of Slavianka ( Slavianskaya brigada) freed Zheleznoe village ( Zaliznoye in uki) , next is Toretsk ! Apti Alaudinov -- legendary man ,-- gave 30min interview on Russian TV yesturday from the location near the border in Kursk region where his Ahmat spetz-naz guys are working now ,eleminating ukro-terrorists & burning NATO's equipment. The interview & other videos of Alaudinov speaking are on his telegram channel , if anyone is interested.
If you read my comment again, I'm not talking about what the Russians have done, which was unsurprisingly first class, my point is if there is a feeling amongst the Russians that the SMO greatly benefited from such pure fuckery and stupidity by their enemy. Sure I know USUK haven't won anything militarily of any consequence, but this war was not an invasion, it was a defensive war with all the advantages on their side. Clearly the Russians have been lethal in achieving their aims and they are only dealing with the hand they've been given, but seriously, how unbelievably terrible and useless has been the decision making from NATO. I don't imagine that the Russian high command could have predicted or planned for such ridiculousness.
Marat, I don't want to seem disrespectful of Russia and its military, yet from my following of the SMO from day one up to the Kursk debacle, it seems to me that the unbelievably reckless, foolhardy tactics of the west from almost day one, has made the task for Russia a whole lot easier.
Had you guys been up against a high command with half the aptitude of your own, this war would have been a lot different. We are talking about a military with supply lines reaching as far back as the west coast of America, an original front line that was well and truly dug in, 100s of billions of dollars in funds, yet when it came to the crunch, the decisions and planning have been thoroughly laughable and sickeningly deplorable in terms of the wanton disregard for the lives of their military men and women.
Like I said, no disrespect for you lads, but is there a sense amongst you of how lucky you were in this regard?
No disrespect here but when was the last time the West, especially the Americans, won a war? They do the shock and awe for 3 weeks and then they are done. They cant get supply lines going. Ever. I am sure you are aware of what happened in Iraq. They lost that in 3 weeks. Everything you describe is what Russia did and that is how they won this one. Outstanding performance, excellent battlefield tactics. And Russia was outnumbered in the beginning of the SMO.
Thank you! Some people say it,s part of a plan of CIA M16 Ukrops to send the most fanatical men (Nazi’s) to Kursk. because if they fail, they are sacrificed as cannon flesh and the West get rid of them, before peace talks/capitulations?
Also, how do we know these are actually their best guys? Because they said so? Because of the unit numbers? I've read that the UAF has taken up to 500K casualties and it's clear they are losing. Even the hard core Nazis bugged out towards the end.
What's disturbing to me, and no reason to rejoice, is that a large number of the current UAF don't want to be there, have no real dog in the fight, and may even have voted for Yanukovych back in the day. Look at the number of guys trying to flee. Those at the front now are the unlucky ones who got caught. No doubt they have guns at their back a la Red Army, so the only way out is surrender, which may involve killing their minders first. That's a big step to take, especially if it doesn't work out.
I have a friend who fought for six months on the UK side, if you can call holding a position while dodging drones and artillery 'fighting.' He never saw the enemy, half his guys were killed, and he confirmed everything I'd heard about lack of leadership and supplies. He had to buy his own kit, and even bought a mini-bus because they weren't supplied with a vehicle, even though they were designated as mobile infantry.
He's no Nazi, just a guy who let his emotions get the better of him. Now he realizes they were sold out by their own people and is just trying to forget. I worked with him for one summer driving truck. He's a first rate guy, hard worker, family man - 3 kids which is why he was able to leave. Can't do that any more no matter how many kids you have. Ironically we got to be friends because I speak some Russian, so we had fun bad mouthing customers behind their back. He knows I support Russia and yet we're still friends.
How many guys like him never made it out? How many got drawn in on false pretenses or dragooned into something they wanted no part of? I also feel sorry for the Russians whose job it is to kill them. They must know by now these guys don't want to fight. One thing to kill a Nazi rat bastard, but they're running out of those. Now it's just regular guys. Breaks my heart actually.
Scumbag just like those AFU personel who don't want to be there. But they all wanting to kill Russian , they wanted and jumped around on Maidan in 2014, they were happy when ukro-nazis were perpetraiting ETHNIC CLEANSING of Russian population in Donbass, they voted for zelenski, they supported every BS of his and of Poroshenko, they wanted NATO & EU, they pumped themselves with hate, they clapped every time the rocket went to Crimea and civilians were bombed in Donbass. This nation commited suicide and they deserve everything that's comming their way, ungratefull treasonous , hatefull nazis.
Let me tell you what I do know . I have many family members and friends in former USSR regions, most of them live in Russia ,including Donbass and Crimea ; and many of those who didn't manage to flee - are still all over what's left of Ukraine -- from the city of Odessa to the East and central region ,and from Kiev to Lvov. Big family ,yes, on both sides of my parents. It was one big family in one big country. Now it's divided. I do communicate with all of them periodically, both sides . For years I watched the ukrainian side slowly turning insane and it accelerated after 2014. It is difficult to listen to those in Ukraine, especially the younger generation, but I just listen to them. I don't even need to read the news to know what's happening around them , what and how they think and why.
Oooh, cry me a river for your friend who " let his emotions get the better of him " and went to Donbass to kill Russians. What did he think , он в сказку попал, да? Scumbag he is.
That's still no excuse to attack me or my friend, who you know nothing about. You painted all Ukrainians, including my friend, with the same brush, which is exactly what the Banderistas do to Russians.
Half the country voted for Yanukovych and a significant number of them live west of the Dnieper. Do you think all of them were able to get out? Some had to stay as they have family to care for and not enough money to leave. Those are the guys you see trying to escape that are being rounded up and sent to the front.
You say people voted for Z. Well, yeah, because he ran on a platform of peace. Then he betrayed the people who voted for him. You'd know that if you were paying attention. You'd also know he was looking for a way out, but Boris Johnson interfered with that on behalf of NATO and the USA, who are the real authors of this tragedy. No way could Kolomoyskyi and his Azov thugs have gotten any traction without US support. A classic "colour revolution.'
As for the youth of the nation who were betrayed, those young guys dying at the front were little kids when the coup happened, and they've been fed a pack of lies by their government, schools and maybe even their parents since they were children. How do you resist that when you're little? Think back to your own youth and the things you believed at the time. Still believe them? Not me. I was taught to regard Russians as my enemy and only broke out of that mindset when I was old enough to think for myself.
Which brings me to my friend. A decent, honest guy who you labelled a Nazi. He left Ukraine in 2014 and only returned because he felt it was his patriotic duty to defend his homeland. Misled for sure, but he's not a deep thinker and kind of impulsive. Thank God he didn't kill anyone, as all he did was sit in a trench taking artillery fire and never actually saw the enemy. Saw plenty of good guys die though. Guys like him, who thought they were defending their homeland. Not Nazis. Not even close. Read what I wrote: "He knows I support Russia and yet we're still friends." Does that sound like a Nazi to you?
This war has been a tragedy for both sides, and while I agree that a large number of Ukrainians bought into the nationalist BS, that doesn't describe all of them. Many just kept their heads down hoping things would pass. Some of them left, some went to the other side. Everyone has their own story and condemning them with blanket statements like you made doesn't help the situation. Have you noticed the numbers that have surrendered? Have you listened to what they had to say? About how they felt betrayed by their own side? How they were lied to? What choice did they have when they got called up? Some of them actually joined the other side. Some of them refused to be exchanged in prisoner swaps and after vetting were give Russian citizenship. Does Russia give their passports to Nazis? Think with your head, not your heart. That's what got my friend into trouble.
A bit of history here. The original Maidan protests were not about nationalism. They were mostly younger people who felt their dream of joining the EU was being stolen from them. That was never true, just a lie perpetrated by the nationalists. Yanukovych cut a deal with Russia because it made more sense. No way could Ukraine compete in European markets in the condition it was in, plus the deal included a continuation of the cheap energy the nation depended on. That would have helped keep people at home, instead of leaving the county which was becoming a real problem. Besides, there was nothing in it that ruled out eventual EU membership. That was a lie, and how likely was that anyway? Talk to the Turks about that one.
So Yanks was corrupt? So what? The "Gas Princess" wasn't? Ukraine's problem is that they were captured by oligarchs and western bankers, just like Russia was. The difference is they never had a Putin. Yanks could have been that guy. Even ethnic Ukrainians voted for him because they saw what happened after the first so-called colour revolution in 2005. Sadly they never got the chance because a small group of US backed extremists hijacked the country. Banderistas were never a majority of the people. Not then, not now. The majority of Ukrainians just wanted to live in peace. That's not hard to understand. You'd have to be rock stupid to pick a fight with Russia, and Ukrainians aren't stupid, just misled and betrayed.
I'm not arguing that Russia shouldn't have responded the way they did. They really had no choice - same as in Chechnya, same as in Ossetia. That doesn't make it any less tragic for those caught up in the insanity, of which my friend was just an unwitting victim.
1 .Cynical, contemptuous and cowardly ukro-nazis apologetics. Typical Western thinking : after the WWII the blame was put on nazism not for crimes against the Soviet people who lost in that Great Patriotic war 30mlns,-- but for the crimes against Western civilization, against the abstract " freedoms". And so it's the same now with ukrainian neo-nazism : nazism has harmed ukrainians, their society and their " democracy" ,-- that's why and only that's why ukro-nazism is bad. But as for Russia : the crimes commited against peoples of Russia, crimes commited against ethnic Russians in Donbass in particular ,-- the crime of ethnic cleansing fully supported by the ukrainian population,-- that is irrelevant. Right? Russia automatically loses the right to be considered the victim. Whether you realise it or not this is a racist position.
3. The problem of your ukro-nazi friend is not that much of his lack of intelligence but more of his lack of moral code : He left his family and children in the Western country and went to kill Russians in Donbass for money , period. On the Front in the line of contact where AF of Russian Federation have been kicking asses of their enemies -- as Russians historically always have done,-- over there your friend crapped his pants and run far away back , and he is lucky to be alive and to have all 4 of his extremities. He is a typical character with a typical post-"adveture" story : " I didn't kill anyone" , " I didn't even see any Russians " that I was shooting at , " I was decieved and lied to" bla-bla-bla & ect. all the typical bs. And here you are joining your friend in both of yours tenuous relationships with the Truth, with the moral code and with common decency.
3. Marat Khairullin once said ( not verbatim) : If nation can not give birth to a leader who will strive for this nation's survival, and if nation lets the enemy in and begins to mess with the huge, rich in resources , powerfull neighbour-friend with nukes,--who needs such nation? Nation like this does not deserve to exist in this world. History is cruel.
4. That background " lesson" you gave me IOI : is that the speech you gave at your child's elementary school career day ? Without this lesson of yours I would never ever have known all the events in my Homeland !
And personally from me according to our tradition ( you can translate yourself ): Слава воинам России ! И да сдохнут ее враги. Аминь.
Sounds like more of a German/French plan - they are countries that will suffer most from these career criminals. Much as with Croatian crime.
CIA/MI6 would probably find profitable ways to tax them in Europe (-share in their loot) and use them for specific tasks - lots to be done in Hungary and Serbia in the next 10 years.
Wouldn't you rather keep them as a stay behind army, like in WWII? Guerrilla warfare, sabotage, that sort of thing. Or you could use them to stir up trouble in Africa. They're no use to you dead, unless you fear them turning on you.
¡Excelente artículo!
Good article from Marat, as always. Thank you. BTW, Russian warriors of Slavianka ( Slavianskaya brigada) freed Zheleznoe village ( Zaliznoye in uki) , next is Toretsk ! Apti Alaudinov -- legendary man ,-- gave 30min interview on Russian TV yesturday from the location near the border in Kursk region where his Ahmat spetz-naz guys are working now ,eleminating ukro-terrorists & burning NATO's equipment. The interview & other videos of Alaudinov speaking are on his telegram channel , if anyone is interested.
If you read my comment again, I'm not talking about what the Russians have done, which was unsurprisingly first class, my point is if there is a feeling amongst the Russians that the SMO greatly benefited from such pure fuckery and stupidity by their enemy. Sure I know USUK haven't won anything militarily of any consequence, but this war was not an invasion, it was a defensive war with all the advantages on their side. Clearly the Russians have been lethal in achieving their aims and they are only dealing with the hand they've been given, but seriously, how unbelievably terrible and useless has been the decision making from NATO. I don't imagine that the Russian high command could have predicted or planned for such ridiculousness.
Marat, I don't want to seem disrespectful of Russia and its military, yet from my following of the SMO from day one up to the Kursk debacle, it seems to me that the unbelievably reckless, foolhardy tactics of the west from almost day one, has made the task for Russia a whole lot easier.
Had you guys been up against a high command with half the aptitude of your own, this war would have been a lot different. We are talking about a military with supply lines reaching as far back as the west coast of America, an original front line that was well and truly dug in, 100s of billions of dollars in funds, yet when it came to the crunch, the decisions and planning have been thoroughly laughable and sickeningly deplorable in terms of the wanton disregard for the lives of their military men and women.
Like I said, no disrespect for you lads, but is there a sense amongst you of how lucky you were in this regard?
Compare to Russia 's , the US military is not even in the same league. In every aspect.
The West underestimated Russia, just as Napoleon and Hitler did.
Yes. The West doesn't know ,doesn't understand and hates Russia.
No disrespect here but when was the last time the West, especially the Americans, won a war? They do the shock and awe for 3 weeks and then they are done. They cant get supply lines going. Ever. I am sure you are aware of what happened in Iraq. They lost that in 3 weeks. Everything you describe is what Russia did and that is how they won this one. Outstanding performance, excellent battlefield tactics. And Russia was outnumbered in the beginning of the SMO.
Strategy. The Russian Art of War.
"when was the last time the West, especially the Americans, won a war? "
Grenada, 1983.
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Thank you! Some people say it,s part of a plan of CIA M16 Ukrops to send the most fanatical men (Nazi’s) to Kursk. because if they fail, they are sacrificed as cannon flesh and the West get rid of them, before peace talks/capitulations?
Also, how do we know these are actually their best guys? Because they said so? Because of the unit numbers? I've read that the UAF has taken up to 500K casualties and it's clear they are losing. Even the hard core Nazis bugged out towards the end.
What's disturbing to me, and no reason to rejoice, is that a large number of the current UAF don't want to be there, have no real dog in the fight, and may even have voted for Yanukovych back in the day. Look at the number of guys trying to flee. Those at the front now are the unlucky ones who got caught. No doubt they have guns at their back a la Red Army, so the only way out is surrender, which may involve killing their minders first. That's a big step to take, especially if it doesn't work out.
I have a friend who fought for six months on the UK side, if you can call holding a position while dodging drones and artillery 'fighting.' He never saw the enemy, half his guys were killed, and he confirmed everything I'd heard about lack of leadership and supplies. He had to buy his own kit, and even bought a mini-bus because they weren't supplied with a vehicle, even though they were designated as mobile infantry.
He's no Nazi, just a guy who let his emotions get the better of him. Now he realizes they were sold out by their own people and is just trying to forget. I worked with him for one summer driving truck. He's a first rate guy, hard worker, family man - 3 kids which is why he was able to leave. Can't do that any more no matter how many kids you have. Ironically we got to be friends because I speak some Russian, so we had fun bad mouthing customers behind their back. He knows I support Russia and yet we're still friends.
How many guys like him never made it out? How many got drawn in on false pretenses or dragooned into something they wanted no part of? I also feel sorry for the Russians whose job it is to kill them. They must know by now these guys don't want to fight. One thing to kill a Nazi rat bastard, but they're running out of those. Now it's just regular guys. Breaks my heart actually.
Scumbag just like those AFU personel who don't want to be there. But they all wanting to kill Russian , they wanted and jumped around on Maidan in 2014, they were happy when ukro-nazis were perpetraiting ETHNIC CLEANSING of Russian population in Donbass, they voted for zelenski, they supported every BS of his and of Poroshenko, they wanted NATO & EU, they pumped themselves with hate, they clapped every time the rocket went to Crimea and civilians were bombed in Donbass. This nation commited suicide and they deserve everything that's comming their way, ungratefull treasonous , hatefull nazis.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Let me tell you what I do know . I have many family members and friends in former USSR regions, most of them live in Russia ,including Donbass and Crimea ; and many of those who didn't manage to flee - are still all over what's left of Ukraine -- from the city of Odessa to the East and central region ,and from Kiev to Lvov. Big family ,yes, on both sides of my parents. It was one big family in one big country. Now it's divided. I do communicate with all of them periodically, both sides . For years I watched the ukrainian side slowly turning insane and it accelerated after 2014. It is difficult to listen to those in Ukraine, especially the younger generation, but I just listen to them. I don't even need to read the news to know what's happening around them , what and how they think and why.
Oooh, cry me a river for your friend who " let his emotions get the better of him " and went to Donbass to kill Russians. What did he think , он в сказку попал, да? Scumbag he is.
I think it's you who's letting his emotions get the better of him.
I am a woman, I'm allowed to be emotional 😂
That's still no excuse to attack me or my friend, who you know nothing about. You painted all Ukrainians, including my friend, with the same brush, which is exactly what the Banderistas do to Russians.
Take a look at this map:
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Half the country voted for Yanukovych and a significant number of them live west of the Dnieper. Do you think all of them were able to get out? Some had to stay as they have family to care for and not enough money to leave. Those are the guys you see trying to escape that are being rounded up and sent to the front.
You say people voted for Z. Well, yeah, because he ran on a platform of peace. Then he betrayed the people who voted for him. You'd know that if you were paying attention. You'd also know he was looking for a way out, but Boris Johnson interfered with that on behalf of NATO and the USA, who are the real authors of this tragedy. No way could Kolomoyskyi and his Azov thugs have gotten any traction without US support. A classic "colour revolution.'
As for the youth of the nation who were betrayed, those young guys dying at the front were little kids when the coup happened, and they've been fed a pack of lies by their government, schools and maybe even their parents since they were children. How do you resist that when you're little? Think back to your own youth and the things you believed at the time. Still believe them? Not me. I was taught to regard Russians as my enemy and only broke out of that mindset when I was old enough to think for myself.
Which brings me to my friend. A decent, honest guy who you labelled a Nazi. He left Ukraine in 2014 and only returned because he felt it was his patriotic duty to defend his homeland. Misled for sure, but he's not a deep thinker and kind of impulsive. Thank God he didn't kill anyone, as all he did was sit in a trench taking artillery fire and never actually saw the enemy. Saw plenty of good guys die though. Guys like him, who thought they were defending their homeland. Not Nazis. Not even close. Read what I wrote: "He knows I support Russia and yet we're still friends." Does that sound like a Nazi to you?
This war has been a tragedy for both sides, and while I agree that a large number of Ukrainians bought into the nationalist BS, that doesn't describe all of them. Many just kept their heads down hoping things would pass. Some of them left, some went to the other side. Everyone has their own story and condemning them with blanket statements like you made doesn't help the situation. Have you noticed the numbers that have surrendered? Have you listened to what they had to say? About how they felt betrayed by their own side? How they were lied to? What choice did they have when they got called up? Some of them actually joined the other side. Some of them refused to be exchanged in prisoner swaps and after vetting were give Russian citizenship. Does Russia give their passports to Nazis? Think with your head, not your heart. That's what got my friend into trouble.
A bit of history here. The original Maidan protests were not about nationalism. They were mostly younger people who felt their dream of joining the EU was being stolen from them. That was never true, just a lie perpetrated by the nationalists. Yanukovych cut a deal with Russia because it made more sense. No way could Ukraine compete in European markets in the condition it was in, plus the deal included a continuation of the cheap energy the nation depended on. That would have helped keep people at home, instead of leaving the county which was becoming a real problem. Besides, there was nothing in it that ruled out eventual EU membership. That was a lie, and how likely was that anyway? Talk to the Turks about that one.
So Yanks was corrupt? So what? The "Gas Princess" wasn't? Ukraine's problem is that they were captured by oligarchs and western bankers, just like Russia was. The difference is they never had a Putin. Yanks could have been that guy. Even ethnic Ukrainians voted for him because they saw what happened after the first so-called colour revolution in 2005. Sadly they never got the chance because a small group of US backed extremists hijacked the country. Banderistas were never a majority of the people. Not then, not now. The majority of Ukrainians just wanted to live in peace. That's not hard to understand. You'd have to be rock stupid to pick a fight with Russia, and Ukrainians aren't stupid, just misled and betrayed.
I'm not arguing that Russia shouldn't have responded the way they did. They really had no choice - same as in Chechnya, same as in Ossetia. That doesn't make it any less tragic for those caught up in the insanity, of which my friend was just an unwitting victim.
1 .Cynical, contemptuous and cowardly ukro-nazis apologetics. Typical Western thinking : after the WWII the blame was put on nazism not for crimes against the Soviet people who lost in that Great Patriotic war 30mlns,-- but for the crimes against Western civilization, against the abstract " freedoms". And so it's the same now with ukrainian neo-nazism : nazism has harmed ukrainians, their society and their " democracy" ,-- that's why and only that's why ukro-nazism is bad. But as for Russia : the crimes commited against peoples of Russia, crimes commited against ethnic Russians in Donbass in particular ,-- the crime of ethnic cleansing fully supported by the ukrainian population,-- that is irrelevant. Right? Russia automatically loses the right to be considered the victim. Whether you realise it or not this is a racist position.
3. The problem of your ukro-nazi friend is not that much of his lack of intelligence but more of his lack of moral code : He left his family and children in the Western country and went to kill Russians in Donbass for money , period. On the Front in the line of contact where AF of Russian Federation have been kicking asses of their enemies -- as Russians historically always have done,-- over there your friend crapped his pants and run far away back , and he is lucky to be alive and to have all 4 of his extremities. He is a typical character with a typical post-"adveture" story : " I didn't kill anyone" , " I didn't even see any Russians " that I was shooting at , " I was decieved and lied to" bla-bla-bla & ect. all the typical bs. And here you are joining your friend in both of yours tenuous relationships with the Truth, with the moral code and with common decency.
3. Marat Khairullin once said ( not verbatim) : If nation can not give birth to a leader who will strive for this nation's survival, and if nation lets the enemy in and begins to mess with the huge, rich in resources , powerfull neighbour-friend with nukes,--who needs such nation? Nation like this does not deserve to exist in this world. History is cruel.
4. That background " lesson" you gave me IOI : is that the speech you gave at your child's elementary school career day ? Without this lesson of yours I would never ever have known all the events in my Homeland !
And personally from me according to our tradition ( you can translate yourself ): Слава воинам России ! И да сдохнут ее враги. Аминь.
Sounds like more of a German/French plan - they are countries that will suffer most from these career criminals. Much as with Croatian crime.
CIA/MI6 would probably find profitable ways to tax them in Europe (-share in their loot) and use them for specific tasks - lots to be done in Hungary and Serbia in the next 10 years.
Wouldn't you rather keep them as a stay behind army, like in WWII? Guerrilla warfare, sabotage, that sort of thing. Or you could use them to stir up trouble in Africa. They're no use to you dead, unless you fear them turning on you.